New Scion

Kevin · GMPenguin

New Scion

thewizard16 · V-12

Could be a sedan... maybe an echo replacement? Or a more youth-oriented compact? It'll be interesting to see. If it's as good, respectively, as the tC is, it should do well. Scions seem to be sought after around here. It doesn't matter which Scion you drive, whether it's the xA (which I think is ugly), the xB (which takes getting used to, but is really cool), or the tC, you must be cool.

Kevin · GMPenguin

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Originally posted by: thewizard16
"Could be a sedan... maybe an echo replacement? Or a more youth-oriented compact? It'll be interesting to see. If it's as good, respectively, as the tC is, it should do well. Scions seem to be sought after around here. It doesn't matter which Scion you drive, whether it's the xA (which I think is ugly), the xB (which takes getting used to, but is really cool), or the tC, you must be cool."

Yeah, the Scion booth so packed the other day.

MX793 · V-6

If it's a sedan, it might be a rebadged Avensis (the sedan that the tC is based on).

thewizard16 · V-12

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Originally posted by: MX793
"If it's a sedan, it might be a rebadged Avensis (the sedan that the tC is based on)."

I doubt they'd rebadge anything. The xA and xB were brought over from Japan, but I think they're now seeking to develop a more unique model line up from their other brands now. If they use the Avensis platform again, it'll be distinctly different than the Avensis, I'm sure.

-- Edited by thewizard16 at 11:30, 2005-03-09

ifcar · Moderator

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Originally posted by: MX793
"If it's a sedan, it might be a rebadged Avensis (the sedan that the tC is based on)."

That would be a nice car, but probably not what they're looking for. It's attractive, though not exciting-looking, and is a midsize sedan.

I'd expect a sedan version of the xA or xB, probably unique to the US, and will hopefully be different enough from the next Echo that it doesn't entirely destroy its sales, like the Scion hatches did to the current Echo.

The other possibility would be the replacement for the xA or the xB, which are nearing the end of their life cycles in Japan.

-- Edited by ifcar at 18:57, 2005-03-09

thewizard16 · V-12

quote:
Originally posted by: ifcar
"

That would be a nice car, but probably not what they're looking for. It's attractive, though not exciting-looking, and is a midsize sedan.

I'd expect a sedan version of the xA or xB, probably unique to the US, and will hopefully be different enough from the next Echo that it doesn't entirely destroy its sales, like the Scion hatches did to the current Echo.

The other possibility would be the replacement for the xA or the xB, which are nearing the end of their life cycles in Japan.-- Edited by ifcar at 18:57, 2005-03-09"

I personally think they'll have something completely different than what they have now. I would imagine they'd make it very different from the next echo, I don't think they want to start the GM-habit of having rebadged models that compete with each other, that, and they want Scions to appear completely different from any of their Toyota models, it was part of their goal from the start. I don't think they'd replace either the xA or the xB for a while, since they're new here, especially the xB. It's a love it or hate it vehicle, but it's made enough of a stir to have other companies jumping up making boxy small SUV/Wagon concepts intended to compete with the xB, and I don't think they'll mess with that success for a few years, at least.

ifcar · Moderator

quote:
Originally posted by: thewizard16
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I personally think they'll have something completely different than what they have now. I would imagine they'd make it very different from the next echo, I don't think they want to start the GM-habit of having rebadged models that compete with each other, that, and they want Scions to appear completely different from any of their Toyota models, it was part of their goal from the start. I don't think they'd replace either the xA or the xB for a while, since they're new here, especially the xB. It's a love it or hate it vehicle, but it's made enough of a stir to have other companies jumping up making boxy small SUV/Wagon concepts intended to compete with the xB, and I don't think they'll mess with that success for a few years, at least."

In retrospect, a Scion tC sedan is the most likely new vehicle, and would be very successful IMO. However, that wouldn't really be concept-worthy, so this probably isn't it.

thewizard16 · V-12

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Originally posted by: ifcar
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In retrospect, a Scion tC sedan is the most likely new vehicle, and would be very successful IMO. However, that wouldn't really be concept-worthy, so this probably isn't it."

I agree completely. Maybe they'll be able to make a small to small mid-sized sedan with some tC influence. At any rate, I'm sure they'll come up with something interesting. They have so far.

Fire It Up · Moderator

Sweet, I'm gonna be there. Should be able to get a buncha pics of it.

Kevin · GMPenguin

quote:
Originally posted by: Fire It Up
"Sweet, I'm gonna be there. Should be able to get a buncha pics of it."

You're going to NYIAS? Awesome!

thewizard16 · V-12

quote:
Originally posted by: Fire It Up
"Sweet, I'm gonna be there. Should be able to get a buncha pics of it."

It'll probably be crowded to say the least, but get as many pictures as you can. I'd like to see some realistic (not press shot) photos of this thing, whatever it will be.

Fire It Up · Moderator

Prepare to be dissapointed...

Ready?

Kevin · GMPenguin

OMG! It's like an old, bloated Ford SYNus.

And the interior looks like what people in the '50s would have depicted a future kitchen to look like.

ifcar · Moderator

I like it. It's of course radical in the concept version, but just try to imagine those styling cues on the current xB body and with a high-quality, more-conventional Toyota interior, and it is a logical xB replacement.

thewizard16 · V-12

It looks interesting, but it's not the kind of new model I was hoping they'd debut.

SOAD2k8 · V-6

Brought to you by the K'nex design team

russo · V-6

quote:
Originally posted by: ifcar
"I like it. It's of course radical in the concept version, but just try to imagine those styling cues on the current xB body and with a high-quality, more-conventional Toyota interior, and it is a logical xB replacement."

Extremely poor chop, but you get the idea

thewizard16 · V-12

Well, it'll be interesting to see what they make out of it. I garantee you that very little of that interior will carry through.

ifcar · Moderator

I expect to see basically what Kevin posted, a boxy shape (possibly with a steeper windshield rake) with that front end, and smaller windows. I expect to see none of that interior carry through.