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Which is your favorite? [2 vote(s)]

Chevrolet Aveo LS sedan
0.0%
Chevrolet Cobalt LS sedan
0.0%
Dodge Neon SXT
0.0%
Ford Focus ZX4 SE
50.0%
Honda Civic LX sedan
0.0%
Hyundai Accent GL sedan (2005)
0.0%
Hyundai Elantra GT sedan
0.0%
Kia Rio sedan (2005)
0.0%
Kia Spectra EX sedan
0.0%
Mazda3 i
50.0%
Mitsubishi Lancer LS sedan
0.0%
Nissan Sentra 1.8S
0.0%
Saturn Ion 3 sedan
0.0%
Suzuki Aerio LX sedan FWD
0.0%
Suzuki Forenza EX sedan
0.0%
Toyota Corolla LE sedan
0.0%
Toyota Echo sedan
0.0%
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A lot is going on in the compact market right now. And we need threads, so I'm making a small-sedan poll.

This group includes compacts and subcompacts, but nothing too expensive (like the VW Jetta or Subaru Impreza). And vote only for the version specifically listed, if there is one.

Please post:

1). Your favorite, along with a sentence or two about why you chose it.
2). A complete order of all the vehicles, ranked first to last.
3). An explanation of your reasoning behind your least-favorite.
4). Anything else that you think is necessary to explain what you think.

And be prepared to defend your rankings, so have a reason for everything. Don't leave any cars out either.

Oh, and of course have fun, and everyone has to post.

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My order:

1. Ford Focus (Roomy, inexpensive, and fun-to-drive).
2. Spectra
3. Corolla
4. Elantra
5. Mazda3
6. Echo
7. Aerio
7. Civic
8. Cobalt
9. Ion
10. Lancer
11. Aveo
13. Forenza
14. Accent
15. Sentra
16. Neon
17. Rio (Cramped, slow, unrefined, drives poorly, and comes with almost no features).

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1. Mazda3 i- Good styling, nice interior with upscale features, and fun to drive


2. Corolla LE


3. Focus ZX4


4. Spectra EX


5. Cobalt LS


6. Civic LX


7. Echo


8. Aerio


9. Elantra


10. Ion


11. Aveo


12. Forenza


13. Lancer


14. Sentra


15. Neon


16. Accent


17. Rio- Extremely poor build quality on exterior body panels and trim as well as interior, sparse on features. Basically, cheap for a reason.



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Just out of curiosity, what do you see in the Cobalt?

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"Just out of curiosity, what do you see in the Cobalt? "

Of the one I looked at, the fit and finish was actually better than the STS I'd just been in (though materials, naturally, were not quite as nice), a pretty good sound system, decent engine, and relatively attractive styling. The front seats were pretty comfortable for a short period of time, but I didn't sit in the rear, and have no idea what it'd feel like on a longer drive. The interior wasn't exceptional for this group at all, but it didn't seem near as far off as the last Cavalier did.

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Of the one I looked at, the fit and finish was actually better than the STS I'd just been in (though materials, naturally, were not quite as nice), a pretty good sound system, decent engine, and relatively attractive styling. The front seats were pretty comfortable for a short period of time, but I didn't sit in the rear, and have no idea what it'd feel like on a longer drive. The interior wasn't exceptional for this group at all, but it didn't seem near as far off as the last Cavalier did."


I hated the Cobalt seats. Not only is the rear poorly shaped and cramped, but the front seats are as bad as or worse than the Cavalier's. Hard, low, and worthlessly-shaped. And pricing isn't especially competitive either.

Just thinking about it makes me want to bump it down a few places more on my list.

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" I hated the Cobalt seats. Not only is the rear poorly shaped and cramped, but the front seats are as bad as or worse than the Cavalier's. Hard, low, and worthlessly-shaped. And pricing isn't especially competitive either. Just thinking about it makes me want to bump it down a few places more on my list. "
Just the seats?  I find that kind of odd, of course I'm used to riding a bus for the last 10 years, and I'm not too picky.

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"Just the seats?  I find that kind of odd, of course I'm used to riding a bus for the last 10 years, and I'm not too picky."


Seats and features for the money are probably my two most-important considerations, and the Cobalt fails horribly at one and does merely adequately in the other. And aside from quick acceleration and good interior quality, it doesn't excel in any other ways to compensate.

And Kevin, you haven't voted here or in some of the other polls. Get cracking.

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"And Kevin, you haven't voted here or in some of the other polls. Get cracking."
I haven't had much time to try and make my lists, plus I really don't have much to base opinions on.

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"I haven't had much time to try and make my lists, plus I really don't have much to base opinions on."


I recommend that you look into some of the review sites that you have listed under "Websites" on your own site.

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" I recommend that you look into some of the review sites that you have listed under "Websites" on your own site. "
Yeah, I know, I'm quite a bit behind, school has been a b**** lately, luckily the 25th is the last day, though.  I'm still on January of Car and Driver.

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"Yeah, I know, I'm quite a bit behind, school has been a b**** lately, luckily the 25th is the last day, though.  I'm still on January of Car and Driver."


School can't possibly take up that much of your evening time.

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" School can't possibly take up that much of your evening time. "
With the end of the year every class is having tests around the same time, so lately, yes it has taken up time.

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quote:
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"With the end of the year every class is having tests around the same time, so lately, yes it has taken up time."


I thought you didn't have exams.

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quote:
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" I thought you didn't have exams. "
We don't, but school is out in less than two weeks so all the teachers have to have the tests around the same time.

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quote:
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" I hated the Cobalt seats. Not only is the rear poorly shaped and cramped, but the front seats are as bad as or worse than the Cavalier's. Hard, low, and worthlessly-shaped. And pricing isn't especially competitive either. Just thinking about it makes me want to bump it down a few places more on my list. "
I didn't sit in the rear, and the front didn't seem too bad, though I wasn't in it too long. It was too low for my tastes, but I didn't notice the shaping being an issue. I honestly can't remember how firm they were.

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"I didn't sit in the rear, and the front didn't seem too bad, though I wasn't in it too long. It was too low for my tastes, but I didn't notice the shaping being an issue. I honestly can't remember how firm they were. "


All I had to do was sit down, and I instantly hated the seats. I disliked the shape in that they were flat and not angled (didn't compensate at all for being too low), and were very hard. And the rear was worse.

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